Cover art

Apr. 4th, 2014 08:56 am
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There was a little bit of discussion on Fandom!Secrets about book cover art. I guess a lot of new authors have the misconception that their publisher will let them have some say in the cover art - but unfortunately, it seems that authors have next to no input. Cover artists are, if I understand correctly, usually given a short summary of the book or a scene, and told to go from there.

I admit, if I'm in a book store glancing around at thousands of books, it's going to be the cover art that makes me notice a certain book. I think that's normal - I don't have time to read the back of every book just to give them a fair chance. But I once heard a fantasy/sci-fi author speak, and he mentioned how horrified he was his first couple books at the atrocious art (and that was in the 80s, and there is nothing like 1980s cover art), and I wonder how many awesome books have been screwed over by a terrible cover. Or maybe a cover did successfully get a potential reader's attention, but the author feels like it doesn't represent his or her work.

Anyone have any experiences?

What's the worst cover art you've seen?

How about the best?

If your novel was published, what would you want to be the cover art?

Date: 2014-04-04 04:11 pm (UTC)
ljwrites: A black silhouette of a conch shell. (conch)
From: [personal profile] ljwrites
Ooh, I love talking covers. My three favorite "terrible covers" articles are 20 Embarrassingly Bad Book Covers for Classic Novels, the one about gendered book covers, and one about whitewashing. Among other things these examples show that being a Big Name Author is no defense against facepalm-worthy cover art.

In some markets even non-authors seem to have some say. My husband is publishing his first translated work (the Korean translation of The Mysterious Stranger by Mark Twain) as an e-book, and the publisher asked him to submit several suggestions for the cover. My husband asked for the titular character holding the Earth between thumb and forefinger, examining it. We won't be too surprised if the cover ends up with a random half-naked lady on it, though.

Date: 2014-04-07 07:26 am (UTC)
ljwrites: Helmet of Star Wars stormtrooper (stormtrooper)
From: [personal profile] ljwrites
Haha, I was squirming at your comment about abbreviated names, because my LJ handle is also the name I plan to use if I get published. Though in my case it's more about racism than sexism--my name is gender-neutral, but it's also very "ethnic." A couple of my buddies had the same concerns about their own names, as seen in the post where I announced the name change.

Speaking of ethnicity, the heroine of the historical novel I'm working on is an East Asian woman (I hesitate to say "Korean" since we didn't have a single national identity back then, though she's definitely an admired and celebrated figure in Korea) who lived 2,000 years ago. She's also one of my personal heroes. For these reasons, if my story were published and the cover were whitewashed I would flip out. The only worse scenario would be if she were whitewashed in boob armor. Self-publication is a far better outcome than my work contributing to yet another erasure of women of color. I'd like to believe we're too enlightened for this crap now, but experience says otherwise.

So I agree there's a real case for blank and abstract covers. Character covers, while arresting if done well, rarely live up to the imagination anyway. Far better to capture an atmosphere or idea than inflict problematic character art on the world. And like you said, a white lady who wasn't in the story doesn't count as symbolism. *facepalm*

Date: 2014-04-10 02:23 pm (UTC)
ljwrites: john boyega laughing (john_laugh)
From: [personal profile] ljwrites
Thanks for empathizing! It might in fact be a boon for certain kinds of subject matter, since it might imply familiarity with certain groups' experiences. On the other hand Arthur Golden did just fine writing Memoirs of a Geisha (and also pissed off his protagonist's real-life model by casting her mentor as the villainous Hatsumomo, or so I heard).

Serious question, if you self published, would you design your own cover? Or get a friend to do it or something?

I can actually answer that non-hypothetically! My husband and I are self-publishing a crowdfunded Korean translation of the indie roleplaying game Polaris, now in the layout correction stage. We're lucky enough to have a very talented and dedicated designer working with us, so she pitched some cover art candidates and we kicked around ideas until we settled on a design. It's going to be an abstract cover with a white star on a black background, though ironically we have a ton of great character art in the book itself. (See the crowdfunding page for a couple of examples. I should warn you the second image is violent.) Part of the issue is cost, since a black cover with a glossy white design is cheaper to make than, say, a full-color illustration. Partly because it looks tasteful and restrained. Come to think of it I don't think we even considered having any characters on the cover, lol.

Date: 2014-04-04 05:34 pm (UTC)
inkdust: (Default)
From: [personal profile] inkdust
I think people have picked up on the new author misconception, because there seems to be a team dedicated to relieving them of it. I think any page I recall seeing about publication hammers in the fact that you have no say and should just suck it up.

So I mean, that's what I'll have to do, if I'm ever fortunate enough to get that far. But I think it's a detail of the industry that should rightly change, and with the publishing world in as much flux as it is, from the rise of self publishing and whatever else, maybe eventually it will change a little.

Date: 2014-04-06 06:18 pm (UTC)
inkdust: (Default)
From: [personal profile] inkdust
Agreed. It seems to me like the smartest thing to do is try not to get set on any certain type of cover image, and then given the improvements in general to cover art as you said, there's probably a better chance of being assigned something you don't object to. I really just don't want any cover art with a depiction of any character, because that has about a 1% chance of satisfaction for me. Something abstract, that would be a lot easier to accept and even like.

Date: 2014-04-04 08:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sarillia
I've heard horror stories about authors who hate the cover of their book but the one person I know who got a book published had a good experience. You can see it here (I swear I'm not just plugging my friend's book again :p).

If I was published I would probably want something like that. Something simple. Though I suppose it would depend on the story. I have some that might not be suited to something like that. I'm pretty easily pleased though so I would probably be fine with whatever the art department of a publisher came up with. Which is good since I probably wouldn't have much say anyway.

Date: 2014-04-07 07:37 am (UTC)
ljwrites: A woman in traditional Korean dress with earbuds in. (deokman)
From: [personal profile] ljwrites
Reading over this thread, I am amused that three separate lines of conversation basically converged into "Abstract covers, please!" Seriously, character covers are so hard to do right I don't know why anyone bothers. I guess it's supposed to be more compelling to have an actual person on the cover, especially if they're conventionally attractive--meaning, all too often, white, thin, young, and able-bodied, sexualized etc., hence the problematic nature of many of these covers. There are so many other ways to draw the gaze and excite the imagination, however, that there's really no excuse for relying on just one tool in the box.

Date: 2016-01-10 05:52 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dharkapparition
My BFF is being published this month and had a definite opinion regarding her cover art. Especially since she is a digital artist as well as writer. The first 2 submissions were horrid, her own art was better. Once the publisher saw her concept and showed it to the artist they'd commissioned, the next images were so much better.

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